Global Verge a scam or not?
Although I added this under the scam section I really do not know what to make of this yet and I hope that some of our readers would be able to tell us what they think.
I received this email below. My concern is that as far as I can remember somebody did try to implement “Internet over powerlines” some years ago and the problem they had was that the lines belong to Eskom and if they want to transfer data on the lines they must pay rent to Eskom.
If you read the email below you will see that this is more or less what these guys want to do. Are there anybody out there who knows if this would be permitted in SA? Seems like they are already taking money from South Africans for registration fees and I am not quite sure if this would be legal in South Africa?
Anybody’s input would be much appreciated……
Introducing Low Cost Mobile Phones, High Speed Internet and Video Conferencing to South Africa
What if……….
• You could plug a box into your wall plug, switch it on and immediately access 100mbps broadband Internet in your home or office?
• You were able to access the Internet 24/7 at lightning speeds and download and upload as much data as you want?
• You were able to hold world-wide Video calls with business associates, family members and friends as if they were in the same room with no lag?
• You could call anyone anywhere for any length of time free of charge using your wireless phone in your home or office?
• You could play online games at optimal speeds with low latency and no lag?
• You could earn a phenomenal income just by sharing this information with others?
• This would cost you much less than you are currently paying for your Internet, Mobile, landline and/or DSTV connection?
• You had the chance to be part of the initial launch of the latest communications technology to hit planet earth?
• You had an entire support team at your disposal to help ensure your success?
• You could get started by clicking a few buttons right now?
• This really was affordable?
Would you be interested?Global Verge, our host company, has recently signed a contract with Zer01 Mobile to bring this service to the globe.
The initial rollout will be in the following countries:
The US, UK, South Africa, Norway, Australia, New Zealand, Canada and Mexico.this means that you can start doing business in these countries right now with around 130 more following soon.
What if………….
• Your company could reduce its communication bills by a staggering amount?
• Each of your travelling representatives could make all their calls for a mere $80 per month?
• All calls from your office could cost you $30 per month?
• You could provide this service to others and earn a massive residual income?
• You could do this with no administration whatsoever on your part?
Global Verge can provide you with all of the above.We expect the first products to be shipped to South Africa within the next 45-60 days i.e. by around July 1 2009.
Let me say start by saying this I am aDoule Diamond in Global Verge. We read all the neg info that has been put out onlin about our company and we find it to be very very funny. On th 19th of October we will bring silence to all the nonsence. Lets talk about the facts 1st fact they put over 45k reps and a rediculious amount of top producers from other companys on board with GV within 3 months. #2 Zero one did not come out with there unlimited product not Global Verge. Don’t get that confused. #3 They do have a huge office with staff in Lees Summitt mo. I drove from St Louis Mo to see it for myself. I meet with theowners I meet all of the support staff and viewd the MOBILE technology that they have keept top secret for the last 3 months….. When layed out and demoed there phase 1 launch mobile technologie my decission was made up on the spot. They are light years ahead the comp. But dont take my word for it just wait untl the 19th of October. This will e fun.
Hi Troy, Is there anywhere around the world where these VOIP products are being used? Another thing is there any update on the launch because 19th october has come and gone and we haven’t heard anything. One thing for sure if people are making money from Recruiting only and there is no Product then it’s a pyramid scheme and that makes it illegal here in SA.
Helge. How long back did you join “GLOBAL VERGE” ? And did you receive any Money out of your “GLOBAL VERGE” business?
This was supposed to be launched in the U.S with big promises in June-July 09′. But still nothing. And you think that it will come to S.A soon. Wake up!!!!
You are spending money which you will not receive back. If you did. Show us the proof of income and the existing products that so called work in the new landscapes of telecommunications.
Show us the proof, and then maybe we will join you.
I have gotten paid 3 times. And will collect again on the 15th of October
It’s bad when the guy in charge is a convicted felon on probation. Mark Petschel pled guilty to Securities Fraud in 2005 and is currently on five years probation. (for verification, visit https://www.courts.mo.gov/casenet/base/welcome.do and do a litigant name search on last name Petschel, first name Mark. It is case number 2104R-01819) There are other cases listed on that website like a judgment against him and Everge for not paying $35,758 in rent in 2008 (case number 08SL-AC40531, Judgment entered 12-17-08). Definitely shady dealings.
The last I heard a while back they were more than a month late in paying June commissions, but were supposed to be paying them. Not sure if they ever did.
They are always big on promises and little on delivery. I definitely would not want to put my career in the hands of a convicted felon who doesn’t pay his bills.
Watch his space. It is normal for people to be sceptical as we have all been scamed in various ways. Global Verge are doing things slowely but thoroughly. The landscape for Telecomunication will change soon. You can be part of it or watch it hapen. I am certainly ready and registered to benefit. Any one out their brave enough to join me & benefit can contact me at helge1@iburst.co.za. As Rome was not built in a day this will unfold at the correct pace. Be blessed. Helge
Helge, I surely hope that you guys are right because broadband Internet in South Africa surely need some good competition. The current networks stuff crap down the consumers’ throats and we have no other option than to use it because it is all that is available.
So I surely hope these guys are who they say they are. But for now I will still wait it out and see what happens. There are enough time to get involved once they really become lawfully operative.
We got the goods. Who has been paid more? Global Verge associates always have. Get a life! FDI will go down the tubes. Wallow in your pity guys.
Zero1 Mobile has withdrawn their agreement with Global Verge, for, “Breach Of Contract”. Globalverge posted the news on their back office and sent a mail to every rep. No phones from Zero1 Mobile
They did say in a later posting that they still have a relationship with Buzzirk Mobile, and will be offering a similar phone plan through Buzzirk Mobile. Plus the other products Globalverge has are AMAZING. For instance the water machine that turns the air you breath into healthy drinking water! No plumbing required!!
Wron info Zero 1 never produced the technology. Ask yourself where is Z1 have you herd from them. No one has. You will shocked in October when they shake up everyone.
Show us the goods and the proof that it works since you claim that you have the “goods”.
It still looks like a myth wereby people gets suckered for their money.
Proof is in the pudding. Get real buddy.
Has any one seen one of these products?
Is there any more info about 5G testings in South Korea?
Global Verge is selling 5G wireless? The only place it is being tested is South Korea, much less being available.
GLis not selling 5G it doesnt exist in the U.S ass of yet.
Laptop Magazine rescinded Zero1’s award and it was the first time in 18 years that had done such. Any one really believe that this is for real? Rather odd they changed the payment co. to an off shore co. and now want ACHs.
@Anon
Anon
You clearly have no idea how the ICASA license works, they control all frequencies therefore when you want to utilse a new frequency let’s assume 2100mhz you need to apply to operate in that bandwith or you may be interfering with military, radio or television if this were not the case there would be total chaos, as such an existing license is no guarantee of a future license.Unless Vox have a license for this frequency range they cannot use the technology,can you substantiate your claim to this effect?
Wayne Bruyns
I agree with Al. These guys are scamsters for years now. How can they be trusted with your and your family and friends money making you believe in a ghost product that no-one has seen yet.
You really need to be stupid to go in a scheme like this.
Rather wait for the product, see if it works and then climb in. Otherwise you will have a lot of angry people at your doorstep.
As they say. The proof is in the puding. Not in make believe.
Global Verge smells like a rotten rat. Those A-Holes hit me with a charge of $74.84 that was supposed to be $39.95 a month, today July 28, 2009. I paid a one time charge June 25, 2009 of $79.95 and then it was supposed to be $39.95 a month. Any one interested in a class action suit please email me at weber506@gmail.com.
No physical presence other than a couple of informal presentations. A basic due diligence raises more questions than can be answered. No real virtual presence than bloggs, or off-topic websites, with a concise effort to remove information previously published. A business with a convicted fraudster (it would seem MP actually pleaded guilty) at its helm, who has been rehashing the same opportunity and (even) marketing material since 2006/7. Pre-launch hype has resulted in a zer0 rollout. Despite serious allegations leveled at the business’ front, no press release to address the perceptions raised. Nothing – nothing – but sales talk and innuendo fronting a maze of ‘corporations’, ‘interconnect agreements’ and ‘back office outsourcing’. I could not find a single, independent press release corroborating the GV/Buzzirk/Zer01/ technology rollout.
A responsible venture -surely – does not do business like this? One should walk away on that principle alone.
Hey guys please get out fat, there are no phones, no service, no0 patents, no legitimate offices it’s collapsing fast don’t listen to triple diamonds NO ONE has the phones. Mark and Ruth were demonstrating on a pharos phone on the T Mobile network there are no agreements for service with the big carriers, UTGI stripped it’s website of most of the info they had on it after a couple of bad tech reports GET OUT QUICK and if it does materialise get back in but it’s really fishy.
@Martin Martin, I agree. If this business does launch and if it is legal, it would be the next best thing since sliced toast. I for one would definitely use the Internet option as I am sick and tired of Vodacom’s poor internet and I think there are many other South Africans who just had it with sub-standard Internet connections.
But I would also not pay for something just because it smells like money. Let it launch and if it is worth the money I will go for it.
As for the Pyramid comments you made. Read http://www.earnextra.co.za/pyramid and you will see that it is not such a bad idea. I think most people just do not understand the concept.
Hi Pieter.
Would like to be anon on this matter.
I have been to one of their meetings and should tell you that it sounds very ligit. This system is already in use in the US since 1July 09 and if it can work in our country it will be just great.
My only concern to this is the marketing structure that they are using.
Why if this product is so great, why do they market it through a “piramid system” where everyone can make money out of it?
Why if this is so great, why does no one know about this technology coming to our country.?
Why don’t they put it to the press that this will be available in SA about 8 weeks from now?
It sounds to fishy to me?
We all know what happens to big “piranmid systems” in our country. It falls down and the guy on top normaly in some other country walks away with the money.
You must think twice about buying in a product/business that you havn’t seen or heard of before and which is very un-known to all around you, and paying uprfront for it and hope you will get the product.
The proof is in the pudding. It is too good to be true.
For a mere +\- R780.00 per month unlimitid access of phone and internet usage. NICE!!! bring it on.
BUT. What about ESCOM,VODACOM, MTN, CELL C, and TELKOM. They would want to have a finger in this pie if it comes to SA. So how will R780.00 per person cover all the others standing in the que to be pay for rent, tower usages etc.
And why would TELKOM and our govorment spend so much money for the new under water sea cable thats being laid for better communication and internet for the 2010 world cup next year, if they know about this technology.
Think twice.
Maybe i’m just sceptic.
But lets see over 8 weeks from now. Either it is the worlds best thing ever, or just another scam.
I went to the home office 2 weeks ago. And the Mobile tech that I laid my eyes on is some serious stuff no other company that I knof has it not 5Linxs, FDI ACN or the Light year company
With regard to all the rumours and links to press releases about Zer01 looking for other distributors and also having agreements with other Carriers, Mark has assured me that this is not true and that these are old press releases that are being re-published. Ben Pillani will take up this matter and confirm that GV has the exclusive marketing rights
and he will be speaking on one of the Corporate recordings, so keep tuned to the audios.
Ben Piilani was just on a global verge town hall meeting last night, and said that they WILL be making this technology available to Verizon and other companies, but that Globalverge and their distributors will supposedly have a “better cut” than the others. Take note that Zero1 never made the claim that they would not seek other distribution outlets.
Why is it so difficult to get to the source of this enitity? What is the company’s registration number? Is it a PTY Ltd? I’ve been searching for its website only to come across blogs with horrible spelling and grammar, probably done in some poorly ventilated home by some sorry sod who paid for a product they haven’t yet seen. Would you give me your money if I told you I’d bring you your groceries a week later…and we were standing in the street? Don’t be scammed people. I currently belong to one network marketing (not pyramid – they’re illegal in my country) company. they have partnered with blue-chip companies both in my country, South Africa, as well as globally, including Fortune 500 companies. GV are trading from somebody’s car boot. They’re not getting my money with the promise of great fortunes in just 18 months. I’m not trying to get rich quick, I want wealth at the time it comes. dream10320@gmail.com
While the opportunity for Converged Communications exists and celluar technology is gaining in speed and pervasiveness (think ClearWire) there are some definite holes in the technology being purported by “sales and marketing” for Global Verge.
Several posts I have seen speak to the use of 2100 Mhz for Cellular Broadband delivery – which is UMTS.
Ref: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Mobile_Telecommunications_System
T-Mobile’s rollout of UMTS in the US will focus on the 2100/1700 MHz bands, whereas UMTS coverage in Canada is being provided on the 850 MHz band of the Rogers Wireless network. In 2008, Australian telco Telstra replaced its existing CDMA network with a national 3G network, branded as NextG, operating in the 850 MHz band. Telstra currently provides UMTS service on this network, and also on the 2100 MHz UMTS network, through a co-ownership of the owning and administrating company 3GIS. This company is also co-owned by Hutchison 3G Australia, and this is the primary network used by their customers. Optus is currently rolling out a 3G network operating on the 2100 MHz band in cities and most large towns, and the 900 MHz band in regional areas. Vodafone is also building a 3G network using the 900 MHz band. The 850 MHz and 900 MHz bands provide greater coverage compared to equivalent 1700/1900/2100 MHz networks, and are best suited to regional areas where greater distances separate subscriber and base station.
Below is an email from someone who claims to have spoken to the CEO, Mark Petschel. Read it and weep. What sort of company can this be where the CEO does not have the “focus” to see his product launch through? Are we concerned yet?
“Afternoon everyone,
I have just spoken with Mark Petschel CEO of Global Verge and he was really exhausted. They are working around the clock, but he said he just wanted to finish off this week with all the commissions and payments and then he would focus again on the pow-r-save units and the water machines to SA and to get them released for sale. He will also be able to turn his attention to the phone service to get that moving for SA and other countries.
Mark has been very busy with some major, major things, which will be announced soon and for those of you wondering why the above products have not been released, this is the reason why. He has just not had time to focus on them. There are fabulous things that Mark has been setting up for us and I wish I could share it but I cant. All I can tell you is that it is mega. So be patient a little longer.
With regard to all the rumours and links to press releases about Zer01 looking for other distributors and also having agreements with other Carriers, Mark has assured me that this is not true and that these are old press releases that are being re-published. Ben Pillani will take up this matter and confirm that GV has the exclusive marketing rights
and he will be speaking on one of the Corporate recordings, so keep tuned to the audios.
All we have to do folks, is to continue working as we all have, and to build our businesses, the products will be here soon.
Many of you are already earning nice commissions and others just starting out, remember YOU CAN TOO…
Thank you for being such a great team and working so hard, together we will all be successful.”
@Adolphe
Hi Adolphe
It appears in your case as though ignorance is bliss, I understand what they are claiming can be done and I am telling you it is illegal and cannot integrate with existing telecomms networks which renders it useless!
I lost R200k on a previous failed telecomms venture and will not waste another cent without proper due diligence , the internet has tons of these schemes and rely on your attitude to make millions by fleecing small sums of money from unsuspecting folk like yourself.
PS So called intelligent people are responsible for the prevailing financial crisis, I dont attach too much value in business to doctorates or degrees!
Kind Regards
Wayne Bruyns
Dr Felton, you sound like an educated man. Dawn and Robert, you sound if you are in the same boat as me. Pissing out $ 20 or taking a chance on this?? Well I take my chances. Always has and always will. Some work some don’t. I think the risk is small enough. I’ve lost lots more for much worse ideas.
I can just not live on negativity and even less on going with blogs where you can clearly see that no one understands the technology.
Visit telecomweb.com. These guys know what they are talking about. Huge site so you can keep busy for three days .
I will send you more positive links ons this than everyone concentrating on the mistake of Mark.
If you understand a little bit of the internet Protocol, you will understand the technology better.
Launch took place in USA and enough info on that, if you search.
Do your research people and then decide if you want to continue concentrating on someones mistakes in the past. Or se the change taking place in the telecoms industry.
I’ve made many mistakes, but believe that no one of you people are in that category. I live with mine , past and gone, nothing I can do about it now. But at least I can do all I can to ensure a better future.
Seems like all of you are concentrating on Mark, while all the rest is happening under your noses !!!!
wake up, the new era of telecoms has arrived and at least we will not be srewed on phone bills anymore. This was long due and I feel enough is enough now on the HUGE profits telecoms companies are making and we just accept it.
Wake up. Who’s paying the millions and millions being sponsored to all the different sport and then here and there a bit for the poor and charity, so everyone can shut up. Billions of profits every year ???
Think it’s time we share a bit of that !!!